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	<title>Comments on: A Better Open Textbook Bill</title>
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	<description>pragmatism over zeal</description>
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		<title>By: iterating toward openness &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Durbin Open Textbook Bill Finally Introduced!</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/850/comment-page-1#comment-44348</link>
		<dc:creator>iterating toward openness &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Durbin Open Textbook Bill Finally Introduced!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this year I blogged about what I thought should go into an open textbook bill (with clarifications the next day). I&#8217;m extremely pleased that Senator Durbin has introduced [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this year I blogged about what I thought should go into an open textbook bill (with clarifications the next day). I&#8217;m extremely pleased that Senator Durbin has introduced [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wiley Muses on Open Textbook Bill &#171; Open Education News</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/850/comment-page-1#comment-43418</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiley Muses on Open Textbook Bill &#171; Open Education News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 03:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what he&#8217;d like to see a hypothetical open textbook bill look like. Posts are available in Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3. Also, Stephen Downes posts (Part 1 and Part 2) short responses with more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what he&#8217;d like to see a hypothetical open textbook bill look like. Posts are available in Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3. Also, Stephen Downes posts (Part 1 and Part 2) short responses with more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Draper</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/850/comment-page-1#comment-43416</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Draper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 00:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange how trackbacks don&#039;t seem to be working from my blog to yours.

I&#039;m just still wondering how you see k12 fitting into your vision for open textbooks and I&#039;d love to work toward making this a reality in the Canyons district:

http://drapestakes.blogspot.com/2009/05/open-textbooks-in-k-12.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange how trackbacks don&#8217;t seem to be working from my blog to yours.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just still wondering how you see k12 fitting into your vision for open textbooks and I&#8217;d love to work toward making this a reality in the Canyons district:</p>
<p><a href="http://drapestakes.blogspot.com/2009/05/open-textbooks-in-k-12.html" rel="nofollow">http://drapestakes.blogspot.com/2009/05/open-textbooks-in-k-12.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: iterating toward openness &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More On My Dream Open Textbook Bill</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/850/comment-page-1#comment-43388</link>
		<dc:creator>iterating toward openness &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More On My Dream Open Textbook Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 05:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Responding to some comments on yesterday&#8217;s post about my ideal open textbook legislation: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stephen Downes</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/850/comment-page-1#comment-43387</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Downes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 17:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; &quot;A letter of support from a reputable publisher committing to partner on the proposal. This partnership must include the provision of traditional publishing services like editorial support, design / layout support, and the creation of supplemental materials (like slides and exams).&quot;

This would torpedo the whole project.

The &#039;reputable publisher&#039; would support only its own proposals (or those of affiliates), automatically eliminating most of the competition, and in turn, forcing the cost of the proposals significantly up.

Letters of support should more properly come from experts in the field, associations active in the field, or learning resource developers, etc., and not merely publishers. Indeed, for my own part, it is a letter from a publisher that I would (among those just listed) least trust.

Also, &quot;A marketing plan for the textbook, including prices for all planned formats of the book (excluding the web version which will of course be free, but including paperback, hardback, audio, etc.) and a target number of student adoptions in the first two years after publication&quot; needs thought.

- you don&#039;t want the textbook producers to deliberately undermine the free web version (eg., by making the server so slow its impossible to download, by using obsolete content formats, etc etc)

- you don&#039;t want to create a situation where the poorest or most disadvantaged pay the costs - having print and audio versions for a fee means that people without computers and people who are blind must pay for their copies, while richer fully sighted people can get it for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; &#8220;A letter of support from a reputable publisher committing to partner on the proposal. This partnership must include the provision of traditional publishing services like editorial support, design / layout support, and the creation of supplemental materials (like slides and exams).&#8221;</p>
<p>This would torpedo the whole project.</p>
<p>The &#8216;reputable publisher&#8217; would support only its own proposals (or those of affiliates), automatically eliminating most of the competition, and in turn, forcing the cost of the proposals significantly up.</p>
<p>Letters of support should more properly come from experts in the field, associations active in the field, or learning resource developers, etc., and not merely publishers. Indeed, for my own part, it is a letter from a publisher that I would (among those just listed) least trust.</p>
<p>Also, &#8220;A marketing plan for the textbook, including prices for all planned formats of the book (excluding the web version which will of course be free, but including paperback, hardback, audio, etc.) and a target number of student adoptions in the first two years after publication&#8221; needs thought.</p>
<p>- you don&#8217;t want the textbook producers to deliberately undermine the free web version (eg., by making the server so slow its impossible to download, by using obsolete content formats, etc etc)</p>
<p>- you don&#8217;t want to create a situation where the poorest or most disadvantaged pay the costs &#8211; having print and audio versions for a fee means that people without computers and people who are blind must pay for their copies, while richer fully sighted people can get it for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Werdmuller</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/850/comment-page-1#comment-43386</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Werdmuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 11:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any reason for not including the whole range of permissive CC licensing, including the Public Domain one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any reason for not including the whole range of permissive CC licensing, including the Public Domain one?</p>
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