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	<title>Comments on: On fully distributing the social network</title>
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	<description>pragmatism over zeal</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Taylor</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/466/comment-page-1#comment-40754</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an excellent idea, and one of the main thrusts behind the new BuddyPress project - a social network built on Wordpress MU. However rather than release BuddyPress so users can run wild creating their own mini-silos, we want to free the data. RSS, RDF, XFN, FOAF, OpenID, OAuth and more are the cogs - the machine we&#039;ll build to make them work together is going to look pretty amazing.

One thing I&#039;m particularly interested in is synchronisation of profiles across multiple blogs and social networks. The fact is people have lots of different interests, and while they *may* have a central place to manage their data from, it&#039;s also likely they see several of their online &quot;homes&quot; as important as each other. A decentralised list of &#039;rel=&quot;me&quot;&#039; places could all talk to each other, so if you update your &quot;About me&quot; text on one site you could choose to sync it to all your other profiles. Same with user statuses, if you want to say you&#039;ve just discovered the perfect sandwich you don&#039;t want to have to type that several times in several places.

A lot more thought needs putting into that, but the potential for this whole area is very exciting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent idea, and one of the main thrusts behind the new BuddyPress project &#8211; a social network built on Wordpress MU. However rather than release BuddyPress so users can run wild creating their own mini-silos, we want to free the data. RSS, RDF, XFN, FOAF, OpenID, OAuth and more are the cogs &#8211; the machine we&#8217;ll build to make them work together is going to look pretty amazing.</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;m particularly interested in is synchronisation of profiles across multiple blogs and social networks. The fact is people have lots of different interests, and while they *may* have a central place to manage their data from, it&#8217;s also likely they see several of their online &#8220;homes&#8221; as important as each other. A decentralised list of &#8216;rel=&#8221;me&#8221;&#8216; places could all talk to each other, so if you update your &#8220;About me&#8221; text on one site you could choose to sync it to all your other profiles. Same with user statuses, if you want to say you&#8217;ve just discovered the perfect sandwich you don&#8217;t want to have to type that several times in several places.</p>
<p>A lot more thought needs putting into that, but the potential for this whole area is very exciting.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/466/comment-page-1#comment-40736</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi  I just got thid from some friends...

Les Squires Announces New Web-based Community Building Platform
March 31, 2008 by Thomas H. Greco 

Please see this FYI

http://beyondmoney.wordpress.com/

http://podim2008.ning.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi  I just got thid from some friends&#8230;</p>
<p>Les Squires Announces New Web-based Community Building Platform<br />
March 31, 2008 by Thomas H. Greco </p>
<p>Please see this FYI</p>
<p><a href="http://beyondmoney.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://beyondmoney.wordpress.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://podim2008.ning.com/" rel="nofollow">http://podim2008.ning.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Solution Grove Blog</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/466/comment-page-1#comment-40691</link>
		<dc:creator>Solution Grove Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dsitributed Social Networks...&lt;/strong&gt;


David Wiley posts about fully distributing the social network. This basically means empowering blogs or other personal Web sites to make the ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dsitributed Social Networks&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>David Wiley posts about fully distributing the social network. This basically means empowering blogs or other personal Web sites to make the &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tarmo Toikkanen</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/466/comment-page-1#comment-40570</link>
		<dc:creator>Tarmo Toikkanen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just ran into Plaxo Pulse. Yes, it&#039;s a social networking site, so it&#039;s not quite what you&#039;re describing, but it&#039;s a lot less silo-like than Facebook - basically you can just add feeds and info from all the sites you do use (your blog, twitter, jaiku, flickr, etc.) and the feeds get collected and become your life stream on pulse. Also, you can get an rss feed from your network&#039;s feed, so you can follow them with whatever reader you like, instead of looking at ads on Facebook. And you can remove your info as well, if you want to.

The similarity to what you&#039;re describing is that there&#039;s practically nothing stored in Plaxo, except maybe the friend network - all content and submissions come from other sites that people use. Time will tell what happens when OpenSocial widgets start appearing in Plaxo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just ran into Plaxo Pulse. Yes, it&#8217;s a social networking site, so it&#8217;s not quite what you&#8217;re describing, but it&#8217;s a lot less silo-like than Facebook &#8211; basically you can just add feeds and info from all the sites you do use (your blog, twitter, jaiku, flickr, etc.) and the feeds get collected and become your life stream on pulse. Also, you can get an rss feed from your network&#8217;s feed, so you can follow them with whatever reader you like, instead of looking at ads on Facebook. And you can remove your info as well, if you want to.</p>
<p>The similarity to what you&#8217;re describing is that there&#8217;s practically nothing stored in Plaxo, except maybe the friend network &#8211; all content and submissions come from other sites that people use. Time will tell what happens when OpenSocial widgets start appearing in Plaxo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cole</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/466/comment-page-1#comment-40501</link>
		<dc:creator>Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been doing quite a bit of thinking on this very issue for quite some time now.  I have been wondering why it is that we decentralize our identities (not online or offline, just our identities) the way we do.  I post pictures to flickr, status updates to twitter and FB, keep a running reading list at del.icio.us, but I haven&#039;t been able to take the next step and bring it all together around me.  What I mean is that the only space that I post stuff to is my domain.  It is truly the only place that I have the power to maintain long term.

I think the idea of maintaing your identity in a central location is the long-term goal.  I would prefer to use my identity to assert who I am against services instead of recreating identity at each.  One of the things that bothers me about the current model is the need to recreate my social network each time I explore a new environment ... as an example, just the other day I wanted to try out Pownce and to make it meaningful, I had to beg a handful of friends to join and add me.  If the model were different, my identity would be asserted with Pownce, my network would come with me, and the only new thing is that my identity would now contain an attribute that let me into Pownce.  Does that make any sense?

At any rate, a few weeks ago on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://podcasts.psu.edu/etstalk_34&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ETS Talk&lt;/a&gt; podcast we discussed this topic and tossed our the idea of trying a 30 test -- to se if we could stop with all the other social networks and use only our blogs as the center piece to our online identities ... I haven&#039;t gone down the path yet, but I reading your last couple of posts has given me a nudge in that direction once again.  At any rate, I am watching what you are doing closely ... I think you are getting close to the right approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been doing quite a bit of thinking on this very issue for quite some time now.  I have been wondering why it is that we decentralize our identities (not online or offline, just our identities) the way we do.  I post pictures to flickr, status updates to twitter and FB, keep a running reading list at del.icio.us, but I haven&#8217;t been able to take the next step and bring it all together around me.  What I mean is that the only space that I post stuff to is my domain.  It is truly the only place that I have the power to maintain long term.</p>
<p>I think the idea of maintaing your identity in a central location is the long-term goal.  I would prefer to use my identity to assert who I am against services instead of recreating identity at each.  One of the things that bothers me about the current model is the need to recreate my social network each time I explore a new environment &#8230; as an example, just the other day I wanted to try out Pownce and to make it meaningful, I had to beg a handful of friends to join and add me.  If the model were different, my identity would be asserted with Pownce, my network would come with me, and the only new thing is that my identity would now contain an attribute that let me into Pownce.  Does that make any sense?</p>
<p>At any rate, a few weeks ago on the <a href="http://podcasts.psu.edu/etstalk_34" rel="nofollow">ETS Talk</a> podcast we discussed this topic and tossed our the idea of trying a 30 test &#8212; to se if we could stop with all the other social networks and use only our blogs as the center piece to our online identities &#8230; I haven&#8217;t gone down the path yet, but I reading your last couple of posts has given me a nudge in that direction once again.  At any rate, I am watching what you are doing closely &#8230; I think you are getting close to the right approach.</p>
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		<title>By: jaredstein</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/466/comment-page-1#comment-40499</link>
		<dc:creator>jaredstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the home page as home page. Get the content from _me_ don&#039;t make me dish it out into your silos. 

You&#039;re spot on in wanting more and more WPmu/WP widgets and plug-ins to make the site more inclusive.  Vox.com does a lot of this pretty well, but then ends up failing the user on a number of the more basic functionalities and features.

But re. OpenID does this mean that self-hosted blogs must be OpenID providers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the home page as home page. Get the content from _me_ don&#8217;t make me dish it out into your silos. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re spot on in wanting more and more WPmu/WP widgets and plug-ins to make the site more inclusive.  Vox.com does a lot of this pretty well, but then ends up failing the user on a number of the more basic functionalities and features.</p>
<p>But re. OpenID does this mean that self-hosted blogs must be OpenID providers?</p>
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