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	<title>Comments on: The one that got away: Open textbooks</title>
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	<description>pragmatism over zeal</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/249/comment-page-1#comment-2102</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 12:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have added this yesterday.  I&#039;m interested in this topic from my experience in custom publishing at the university level.  this year at the university ive been associated with for many years, i watched the administration intercede in a textbook selection committee&#039;s choice.  the committee had decided to use a book they had written thenselves and would be considered open source.  the administration had cut a deal with Thomson on their own to provide digital books, even though -obviously- the committee&#039;s choice would cost much less.  the alleged catch was that Thomson was paying the U a &quot;toll&quot; to sell directly through the CMS system. I found this a bizarre twist on the whole textbook cost debate. thats why im creating a site full of references to digital texts.  in many cases, they arent what they seem.   http://www.customtexts.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have added this yesterday.  I&#8217;m interested in this topic from my experience in custom publishing at the university level.  this year at the university ive been associated with for many years, i watched the administration intercede in a textbook selection committee&#8217;s choice.  the committee had decided to use a book they had written thenselves and would be considered open source.  the administration had cut a deal with Thomson on their own to provide digital books, even though -obviously- the committee&#8217;s choice would cost much less.  the alleged catch was that Thomson was paying the U a &#8220;toll&#8221; to sell directly through the CMS system. I found this a bizarre twist on the whole textbook cost debate. thats why im creating a site full of references to digital texts.  in many cases, they arent what they seem.   <a href="http://www.customtexts.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.customtexts.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/249/comment-page-1#comment-2097</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 17:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed reading this.  I&#039;m attempting to put together a page with links related to custom textbook publishing (www.customtexts.com), for which open source would seem to be an item of great interest.  i will include yours if thats ok.  thanks. matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading this.  I&#8217;m attempting to put together a page with links related to custom textbook publishing (www.customtexts.com), for which open source would seem to be an item of great interest.  i will include yours if thats ok.  thanks. matt</p>
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		<title>By: R. Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/249/comment-page-1#comment-2083</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 19:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your ecommendation and I&#039;m going to link to this blog entry at my website, &lt;a&gt;TextbookPOWER.com&lt;/a&gt;. 

I recently started it and it&#039;s basically a democratic, interactive site that mantains a database of all the best places to buy and sell textbooks on the web in addition to textbook alternatives like e-textbooks. Students can vote on which sites that have had the best experiences with, leave reviews, etc. Let me know what you think of it. I also follow all the current news on textbooks and encourage students to post their tips, tricks and opinions on how to save in the sites forum.

There are some more resources on the site, but you can just check it out and let me know what you think and how you think I could improve it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your ecommendation and I&#8217;m going to link to this blog entry at my website, <a>TextbookPOWER.com</a>. </p>
<p>I recently started it and it&#8217;s basically a democratic, interactive site that mantains a database of all the best places to buy and sell textbooks on the web in addition to textbook alternatives like e-textbooks. Students can vote on which sites that have had the best experiences with, leave reviews, etc. Let me know what you think of it. I also follow all the current news on textbooks and encourage students to post their tips, tricks and opinions on how to save in the sites forum.</p>
<p>There are some more resources on the site, but you can just check it out and let me know what you think and how you think I could improve it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Beshears</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/249/comment-page-1#comment-1615</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Beshears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that the cost of commercial textbooks is approaching $900US/year in developed countries, we need to consider strategies to encourage faculty use of open content as a substitute for commercial textbooks.

In other words, assuming that faculty can obtain content from a variety of open sources such as:

- the UKOU&#039;s Open Content Initiative (http://oci.open.ac.uk/)

- MIT&#039;s Open CourseWare initiative (http://ocw.mit.edu/)

what can we do to encourage faculty to use these resources as alternatives to commercial textbooks.

In my initial two articles on creative commons textbooks, I explore a &quot;global model&quot;
that calls for creating a coalition of schools that would commission the development of content that could be used as a substitute for commercial textbooks.

The links for these articles are at:

The Case for Creative Commons Textbooks (2005-08-15)
http://istpub.berkeley.edu:4201/bcc/Fall2005/opentextbook.html

The Case for Creative Commons Textbooks (2005-04-07)
http://www.cetis.ac.uk/content2/20050407015813


However, in my latest article,

The Economic Case for Creative Commons Textbooks
http://www.campus-technology.com/print.asp?ID=11891

I also discuss three &quot;local models&quot; to encourage faculty
adoption of open content resources as substitutes for
commercial textbooks:

1. the Jawbone - a simple library resource model that assumes that if
we build it and if we tell them about it (jawbone them) then they will come.

2. the Stick - an administrative fiat model where we tell faculty they
have to use open content as a substitute for commercial textbooks.
This model may be used where students simply cannot afford 
commercial textbooks

3. the Carrot - a fiancial incentives model that would involve student
fees and faculty stipends.


Here are some notes on these local models might play out:


1. The Jawbone - a Library Resource Model

    a. Open content is made available as a library resource.

    b. Faculty are completely free to â€œopt-outâ€? and select commercial textbooks.

    c. Problem: What if they build it and nobody comes?


2. The Stick - an Administrative Fiat Model

    a. How are student in Namibia supposed to pay for $300 textbooks?

    b. In developing countries, administrators may simply require 
        the use of creative commons content.


3. The Carrot - a Financial Incentives Model

    a. A school Identifies 100 large courses that use textbooks
        and that map well to the available open content.

    b. Determine how much students currently spend on 
       these courses (e.g. $500/yr for commercial textbooks).

    c. Establish a course material fund with a fee that is some 
       percentage of this cost (i.e. a 100% fee would be $500/year).

       - A lower percentage fee would save students money.

       - A higher percentage would give the university more money to work with.

       - So, Ivy League schools may charge a 100% fee

       - Community colleges may charge a small fee.

       - Some schools may charge a 100% fee, but then 
         offer patronage refunds to students.

    d. Students would not be required to purchase textbooks 
        from the bookstore for the courses covered by the course material fund.

    e. Faculty would be free to assign commercial textbooks,
        and if they do the cost would be covered by the fund.

    f. If faculty use Open content, then the money that would 
       otherwise be spent on textbooks could be used to customize 
       the content (e.g. faculty stipends).

    g. Unused funds would be returned to students as a â€œpatronage refund.â€?

    h. The customized content faculty are paid to develop
        would be placed in the creative commons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the cost of commercial textbooks is approaching $900US/year in developed countries, we need to consider strategies to encourage faculty use of open content as a substitute for commercial textbooks.</p>
<p>In other words, assuming that faculty can obtain content from a variety of open sources such as:</p>
<p>- the UKOU&#8217;s Open Content Initiative (<a href="http://oci.open.ac.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://oci.open.ac.uk/</a>)</p>
<p>- MIT&#8217;s Open CourseWare initiative (<a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://ocw.mit.edu/</a>)</p>
<p>what can we do to encourage faculty to use these resources as alternatives to commercial textbooks.</p>
<p>In my initial two articles on creative commons textbooks, I explore a &#8220;global model&#8221;<br />
that calls for creating a coalition of schools that would commission the development of content that could be used as a substitute for commercial textbooks.</p>
<p>The links for these articles are at:</p>
<p>The Case for Creative Commons Textbooks (2005-08-15)<br />
<a href="http://istpub.berkeley.edu:4201/bcc/Fall2005/opentextbook.html" rel="nofollow">http://istpub.berkeley.edu:4201/bcc/Fall2005/opentextbook.html</a></p>
<p>The Case for Creative Commons Textbooks (2005-04-07)<br />
<a href="http://www.cetis.ac.uk/content2/20050407015813" rel="nofollow">http://www.cetis.ac.uk/content2/20050407015813</a></p>
<p>However, in my latest article,</p>
<p>The Economic Case for Creative Commons Textbooks<br />
<a href="http://www.campus-technology.com/print.asp?ID=11891" rel="nofollow">http://www.campus-technology.com/print.asp?ID=11891</a></p>
<p>I also discuss three &#8220;local models&#8221; to encourage faculty<br />
adoption of open content resources as substitutes for<br />
commercial textbooks:</p>
<p>1. the Jawbone &#8211; a simple library resource model that assumes that if<br />
we build it and if we tell them about it (jawbone them) then they will come.</p>
<p>2. the Stick &#8211; an administrative fiat model where we tell faculty they<br />
have to use open content as a substitute for commercial textbooks.<br />
This model may be used where students simply cannot afford<br />
commercial textbooks</p>
<p>3. the Carrot &#8211; a fiancial incentives model that would involve student<br />
fees and faculty stipends.</p>
<p>Here are some notes on these local models might play out:</p>
<p>1. The Jawbone &#8211; a Library Resource Model</p>
<p>    a. Open content is made available as a library resource.</p>
<p>    b. Faculty are completely free to â€œopt-outâ€? and select commercial textbooks.</p>
<p>    c. Problem: What if they build it and nobody comes?</p>
<p>2. The Stick &#8211; an Administrative Fiat Model</p>
<p>    a. How are student in Namibia supposed to pay for $300 textbooks?</p>
<p>    b. In developing countries, administrators may simply require<br />
        the use of creative commons content.</p>
<p>3. The Carrot &#8211; a Financial Incentives Model</p>
<p>    a. A school Identifies 100 large courses that use textbooks<br />
        and that map well to the available open content.</p>
<p>    b. Determine how much students currently spend on<br />
       these courses (e.g. $500/yr for commercial textbooks).</p>
<p>    c. Establish a course material fund with a fee that is some<br />
       percentage of this cost (i.e. a 100% fee would be $500/year).</p>
<p>       &#8211; A lower percentage fee would save students money.</p>
<p>       &#8211; A higher percentage would give the university more money to work with.</p>
<p>       &#8211; So, Ivy League schools may charge a 100% fee</p>
<p>       &#8211; Community colleges may charge a small fee.</p>
<p>       &#8211; Some schools may charge a 100% fee, but then<br />
         offer patronage refunds to students.</p>
<p>    d. Students would not be required to purchase textbooks<br />
        from the bookstore for the courses covered by the course material fund.</p>
<p>    e. Faculty would be free to assign commercial textbooks,<br />
        and if they do the cost would be covered by the fund.</p>
<p>    f. If faculty use Open content, then the money that would<br />
       otherwise be spent on textbooks could be used to customize<br />
       the content (e.g. faculty stipends).</p>
<p>    g. Unused funds would be returned to students as a â€œpatronage refund.â€?</p>
<p>    h. The customized content faculty are paid to develop<br />
        would be placed in the creative commons.</p>
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		<title>By: XplanaZine</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/249/comment-page-1#comment-1388</link>
		<dc:creator>XplanaZine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Daily Update -- February 10, 2006...&lt;/strong&gt;

Here&#039;s  our take on news that matters for Friday, February 10. Today&#039;s theme is giving in (sort of), and here are a some links to headlines about technology that is changing the way we live and learn.

  Gaming -- Microsoft has announced that it will...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Daily Update &#8212; February 10, 2006&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s  our take on news that matters for Friday, February 10. Today&#8217;s theme is giving in (sort of), and here are a some links to headlines about technology that is changing the way we live and learn.</p>
<p>  Gaming &#8212; Microsoft has announced that it will&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: XplanaZine</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/249/comment-page-1#comment-1384</link>
		<dc:creator>XplanaZine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 14:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Daily Update...&lt;/strong&gt;

Here&#039;s  our take on news that matters for Thursday, February 9. Today&#039;s theme is moving on (a tribute to Will Richardson)  , and here are a some links to headlines about technology that is changing the way we live and learn.

  Gaming -- EVE Online c...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Daily Update&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s  our take on news that matters for Thursday, February 9. Today&#8217;s theme is moving on (a tribute to Will Richardson)  , and here are a some links to headlines about technology that is changing the way we live and learn.</p>
<p>  Gaming &#8212; EVE Online c&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Claude Bradley</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/249/comment-page-1#comment-1383</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Claude Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In organic chemistry it is just amazing what is now available online.  
http://drexel-coas-elearning.blogspot.com/2005/12/online-textbook-is-here.html
Nothing better than a free online textbook to include in your open course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In organic chemistry it is just amazing what is now available online.<br />
<a href="http://drexel-coas-elearning.blogspot.com/2005/12/online-textbook-is-here.html" rel="nofollow">http://drexel-coas-elearning.blogspot.com/2005/12/online-textbook-is-here.html</a><br />
Nothing better than a free online textbook to include in your open course.</p>
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		<title>By: dave cormier</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/249/comment-page-1#comment-1379</link>
		<dc:creator>dave cormier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come join the discussion over at educationbridges.org. wikitextbooks as viable alternatives to textbooks. we&#039;d love to have you. Of course, the next live show is in 38 minutes. But we&#039;d love to have you

dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come join the discussion over at educationbridges.org. wikitextbooks as viable alternatives to textbooks. we&#8217;d love to have you. Of course, the next live show is in 38 minutes. But we&#8217;d love to have you</p>
<p>dave.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Sessums</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/249/comment-page-1#comment-1376</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Sessums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 22:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I whole-heartedly applaud and support the idea of open textbooks and open infrastructure, my skeptical nature to your comments comes in light of the amount of money involved on the publishers end, the bookstores surrounding college campuses end, and the textbook authors&#039; themselves. While the cost for textbooks is arguably astronomical (and perhaps unethical), it will be hard to initiate change until instructors stop assigning these texts. At my uni, I work with the libraries electronic reserves unit to assist instructors in building free &amp; accessible online texts for courses that stay within the bounds of TEACH Act and Fair Use guidelines. It takes a little creativity, time and effort, but the students ultimately win.

I also know instructors who self publish, have their texts adopted by other institutions, and make a tidy sum. They figured out how to play the system and they are not anxious to make their texts available at little or no cost. Is this a problem? In mind it is. But I am literally &quot;fighting the system.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I whole-heartedly applaud and support the idea of open textbooks and open infrastructure, my skeptical nature to your comments comes in light of the amount of money involved on the publishers end, the bookstores surrounding college campuses end, and the textbook authors&#8217; themselves. While the cost for textbooks is arguably astronomical (and perhaps unethical), it will be hard to initiate change until instructors stop assigning these texts. At my uni, I work with the libraries electronic reserves unit to assist instructors in building free &amp; accessible online texts for courses that stay within the bounds of TEACH Act and Fair Use guidelines. It takes a little creativity, time and effort, but the students ultimately win.</p>
<p>I also know instructors who self publish, have their texts adopted by other institutions, and make a tidy sum. They figured out how to play the system and they are not anxious to make their texts available at little or no cost. Is this a problem? In mind it is. But I am literally &#8220;fighting the system.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Golden Swamp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Astronomy by Armani</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/249/comment-page-1#comment-1375</link>
		<dc:creator>Golden Swamp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Astronomy by Armani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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