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	<title>Comments on: Utah and Creative Commons</title>
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	<description>pragmatism over zeal</description>
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		<title>By: Tarmo Toikkanen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tarmo Toikkanen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 13:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d assume that if no contract or law or statute existed that said anything about the copyrights being transferred from teachers to their employers, then the rights would not move. And teachers could do with their works as they wished. At least that&#039;s the state of affairs in most of Europe: unless your job contract specifies that rights belong to your employer, you own them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d assume that if no contract or law or statute existed that said anything about the copyrights being transferred from teachers to their employers, then the rights would not move. And teachers could do with their works as they wished. At least that&#8217;s the state of affairs in most of Europe: unless your job contract specifies that rights belong to your employer, you own them.</p>
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		<title>By: David Kernohan</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/1156/comment-page-1#comment-44660</link>
		<dc:creator>David Kernohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done David!

UKOER projects are finding (and resolving) similar issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done David!</p>
<p>UKOER projects are finding (and resolving) similar issues.</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/1156/comment-page-1#comment-44650</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So have you re-approached the Utah teacher and told her about this? If so, what action has she taken on sharing her materials?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So have you re-approached the Utah teacher and told her about this? If so, what action has she taken on sharing her materials?</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Felix</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/1156/comment-page-1#comment-44644</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic David.  Also glad to see that it does not specify which CC license to use.  Keep iterating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic David.  Also glad to see that it does not specify which CC license to use.  Keep iterating.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Rawsthorne</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/1156/comment-page-1#comment-44640</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Rawsthorne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations David! Good to see successful small iterations toward changing the whole. Amazing how a simple rule change removes a big barrier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations David! Good to see successful small iterations toward changing the whole. Amazing how a simple rule change removes a big barrier.</p>
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		<title>By: CR Geissler</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/1156/comment-page-1#comment-44639</link>
		<dc:creator>CR Geissler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, way to go Utah!

However, there are some concerns that may or may not be addressed.  
- If a teacher needs the permission of the state to apply a CC license to lessons plans created by the teacher, then is it settled that the intellectual property is owned by the state?  How does this affect sites like http://www.teacherspayteachers.com/ where teachers are posting and selling their lesson materials?  
- If this rule means that the intellectual property is owned by the State yet shareable under creative commons -- does it also mean that a teacher in the state who chooses to sell a lesson plan on a site like teacherspayteachers should be prohibited from doing so?  
- What happens if an individual from outside the state starts posting CC licensed lesson materials on sites like teacherspayteachers -- which party is injured:  the state, the teacher, the school board, all?  Who&#039;s responsibility is it to enforce the CC license?

I agree that lesson plans created with public money as the result of employment should be freely licensed -- but unlike the assertion in the proposed rule by Mr. Shumway &quot;I have reviewed this rule and I see no fiscal impact on businesses&quot; -- there are very likely impacts due to competition with private businesses like teacherspayteachers or licensing enforcement costs until more jurisdictions get involved (essentially flooding the marketplace with free high quality content making &#039;theft&#039; unprofitable.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, way to go Utah!</p>
<p>However, there are some concerns that may or may not be addressed.<br />
- If a teacher needs the permission of the state to apply a CC license to lessons plans created by the teacher, then is it settled that the intellectual property is owned by the state?  How does this affect sites like <a href="http://www.teacherspayteachers.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.teacherspayteachers.com/</a> where teachers are posting and selling their lesson materials?<br />
- If this rule means that the intellectual property is owned by the State yet shareable under creative commons &#8212; does it also mean that a teacher in the state who chooses to sell a lesson plan on a site like teacherspayteachers should be prohibited from doing so?<br />
- What happens if an individual from outside the state starts posting CC licensed lesson materials on sites like teacherspayteachers &#8212; which party is injured:  the state, the teacher, the school board, all?  Who&#8217;s responsibility is it to enforce the CC license?</p>
<p>I agree that lesson plans created with public money as the result of employment should be freely licensed &#8212; but unlike the assertion in the proposed rule by Mr. Shumway &#8220;I have reviewed this rule and I see no fiscal impact on businesses&#8221; &#8212; there are very likely impacts due to competition with private businesses like teacherspayteachers or licensing enforcement costs until more jurisdictions get involved (essentially flooding the marketplace with free high quality content making &#8216;theft&#8217; unprofitable.)</p>
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		<title>By: John Hilton III</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/1156/comment-page-1#comment-44632</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hilton III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome! Way to go with this new rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome! Way to go with this new rule.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul West</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/1156/comment-page-1#comment-44631</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done David. This is major progress and a great example. 

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done David. This is major progress and a great example. </p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/1156/comment-page-1#comment-44626</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding, David. This is good news for teachers and the Open movement generally. Teachers deal with enough in the way of ambiguity that it&#039;s got to be great for those that are interested in sharing lesson plans to have one less worry on their plates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding, David. This is good news for teachers and the Open movement generally. Teachers deal with enough in the way of ambiguity that it&#8217;s got to be great for those that are interested in sharing lesson plans to have one less worry on their plates.</p>
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