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	<title>Comments on: More Response to George</title>
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	<description>pragmatism over zeal</description>
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		<title>By: E. Kater</title>
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		<dc:creator>E. Kater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Openness Emperor has no clothes.  

It&#039;s not WHAT you share, it&#039;s HOW you share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Openness Emperor has no clothes.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not WHAT you share, it&#8217;s HOW you share.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Spurbeck</title>
		<link>http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/1050/comment-page-1#comment-44109</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Spurbeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess there&#039;s an obvious response to that last comment: That you don&#039;t want to hand a loaded weapon to someone who will use it on you.

As you noted in your presentation, though, the concept of higher education itself is becoming obsolete. Paul Graham noted in his essay, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.paulgraham.com/credentials.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;After Credentials&lt;/a&gt;, that the purpose of higher education is to certify that a person can do something ... but people are increasingly finding ways of judging each other&#039;s performance that don&#039;t rely on credentials, or even ways of letting the market decide directly.

There are people out there right now who aren&#039;t just writing competing textbooks, but creating a world in which there&#039;s no longer a need for textbooks. If your efforts do nothing to help them, but instead forestall the inevitable, you aren&#039;t helping but hindering; both &quot;openness,&quot; and people&#039;s ability to be judged by the marketplace, a process on which higher ed is fast losing its monopoly.

It may be that the most pragmatic thing to do, in iterating towards openness, is to realize that iteration won&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess there&#8217;s an obvious response to that last comment: That you don&#8217;t want to hand a loaded weapon to someone who will use it on you.</p>
<p>As you noted in your presentation, though, the concept of higher education itself is becoming obsolete. Paul Graham noted in his essay, <a href="http://www.paulgraham.com/credentials.html" rel="nofollow">After Credentials</a>, that the purpose of higher education is to certify that a person can do something &#8230; but people are increasingly finding ways of judging each other&#8217;s performance that don&#8217;t rely on credentials, or even ways of letting the market decide directly.</p>
<p>There are people out there right now who aren&#8217;t just writing competing textbooks, but creating a world in which there&#8217;s no longer a need for textbooks. If your efforts do nothing to help them, but instead forestall the inevitable, you aren&#8217;t helping but hindering; both &#8220;openness,&#8221; and people&#8217;s ability to be judged by the marketplace, a process on which higher ed is fast losing its monopoly.</p>
<p>It may be that the most pragmatic thing to do, in iterating towards openness, is to realize that iteration won&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Spurbeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared Spurbeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By-NC-SA may allow &lt;em&gt;educators&lt;/em&gt; to do what they like with the texts, but it doesn&#039;t allow other people to set up commercial alternatives to the existing educational system. It is free in the sense that anyone in the existing system can use and reuse it, but it is not free in the sense that anyone can use it to create a superior alternative.

If these textbooks are good enough that people would read them of their own free will, and actually learn things from them, then not licensing them under CC-By-SA holds people back. It prevents the establishment of a competing system of education, which could itself charge for admission / accreditation or even for access to personal instruction.

I suppose the only consolation for such tutors is that most textbooks aren&#039;t worth using to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By-NC-SA may allow <em>educators</em> to do what they like with the texts, but it doesn&#8217;t allow other people to set up commercial alternatives to the existing educational system. It is free in the sense that anyone in the existing system can use and reuse it, but it is not free in the sense that anyone can use it to create a superior alternative.</p>
<p>If these textbooks are good enough that people would read them of their own free will, and actually learn things from them, then not licensing them under CC-By-SA holds people back. It prevents the establishment of a competing system of education, which could itself charge for admission / accreditation or even for access to personal instruction.</p>
<p>I suppose the only consolation for such tutors is that most textbooks aren&#8217;t worth using to begin with.</p>
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